Incompetence Watch

Saturday, October 14, 2006

Spam and Orange all round!

Originally posted on- lesbianswithloofahs.

Two days ago I decided to activate the email facility on my phone. This seemed like a good idea at the time, where have I heard that before?

After spending countless hours fighting my way through Orange's website over and over again, and more than one phone call to their helpdesk, around midnight I finally managed to succesfully send an email from my phone. Feeling rather good that I finally had it working properly I went to bed.

Yesterday morning I checked my phone and was surprised to see I had twelve text alerts regarding emails that were waiting for me, and so it began!

By the time I had deleted and blocked the extremely dubious offers of lots of cash and enlarged genitalia from my inbox at Orange's website I had another five alerts on my phone! This carried on all day yesterday and well into today when i decided enough was enough and tried to stop all incoming emails to my phone.

I may as well have wished for world peace and an end to global hunger!

Orange must have sensed that I was annoyed because they decided to lighten my mood by refusing to allow me into my own email account for an hour. After I was allowed in I then had to register my details, which orange already had, a further two times before they would allow me access to the email manager which turned out to be as useful as a chocolate teapot.

I then phoned the helpdesk where I was introduced to Rebecca. She was extremely polite and understanding and offered several ideas on what I could do, none of which were any good, before admitting that she really didn't know anything because email wasn't her department. Her final solution was that I should phone another helpdesk, this one so helpful that it charged 50p a minute, however, as she optimistically put it ".. don't worry, it shouldn't take that long! "

I decided not to phone them and instead I went through my phone and deleted every reference to email that it possesses. It's now 1a.m.and it has been one hour since my phone was cleansed and touch wood I have not received any more gratuitous offers!

Orange haven't exactly covered themselves in glory this week.

This has been my most recent experience of the evil that is High Volume E-mail Deployment but I'm guessing it wont be the last!

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Thursday, August 03, 2006

The problem with cars is....

they break. It is almost inevitable. After a while, time gets to them. But when they do go wrong, you would expect a national garage to be able to repair them in a timely fashion. So, for my incompetence watch, I give you Nationwide Autocentres (Stockport).

I drive an Eunos Roadster (an MX-5 variant). The car itself is 15 years old so I was expecting a few minor problems with it, so when the clutch started playing up, I was half expecting it. So I booked the car in with nationwide Autocentres to have it looked at. Apparently, the slave cylinder was leaking and the clutch needed replacing. I gave them a couple of days to get the parts and then fit them.

At this point I should point out I had arranged for the car to be dropped off with them on Monday, and the parts were due to arrive on Wednesday, so I could have them fitted by Wednesday night. With this in mind, the other car I was using was booked in to the centre in Manchester to have an MOT.

On Wednesday night, I get a call. They had fitted the parts but... they couldn't get the gearbox back in the car. Ok, so I had to take the bus and tram in to work the following day. No biggy, just inconvient. When I had it collected, the drivers door was firmly shut... and wouldn't open.

I managed to repair the door, and took the car out to the pub quiz. A guess what... the clutch wasn't fixed either.

So, I book the car in for the following Tuesday. This time, they told me the fault was with the master cylinder and they needed to order the parts in (they only charged me for the parts this time). Skip a couple of days and the car was ready for collection. The clutch was perfect... it went like a dream. Shame about the 2 dents that had appeared in the front passenger side wing, oh, a black scrape mark.

I booked the car in again to have the dents taken out (at no charge). Except, they straighted out the wheel arch and touched up the chip (I supplied the touch-up paint, since they would have to order that in...) and missed the dents. So now, I'm just going to sort the car out myself. At least I stand a fighting chance of the car not coming back in a worse condition than when it went in.

The next time I need work done, I'll be looking elsewhere.

Note Originally posted on Spinneyhead by Tim. Reposted here with permission.

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Thursday, July 13, 2006

Bank charges to be reduced?

I'm sure many of your tales for IncompetenceWatch will involve your bank, and their application of spurious charges which only make situations worse. I know I've had more than a few of those. There have been some victories, but overall I've come out worse off because of £30+ charges for bouncing £2 payments etc.. I hadn't considered filing a small claim against NatWest, though I'd have been justified, and now it's too late. Small claims made by customers in relation to excessive charges have been thrown out of county courts because there's a case being heard in a higher court that could settle the matter once and for all.

The decision from Gloucestershire County Court says: 'It is ordered that the hearing be vacated and the allocation of the small claims track cancelled...

'The action be stayed until further order on the basis that there is likely to be a test case before a higher court before the end of the year. The result is likely to reduce the need and/or amount of litigation in these types of cases.'

If a judge were to decide that the bank charges imposed were justified, then customers seeking refunds would have nowhere to turn. However, to prove that the charges were justified a bank would have to prove that it actually costs upwards of £20 to send out a letter to a customer saying they have gone overdrawn, and a further £25 for authorising or bouncing payments.

If the customer were to win, it would effectively mean that banks were guilty of excessive charging.

via McBlog

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Thursday, June 01, 2006

Good Spirits

While I'm in the blogging mood, a reminder to myself to post the reply I received from the Spirit Group about my complaint to Old Orleans.

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Life's a Gas

This evening, a British Gas salesman knocked on my door. For full details on why this enraged me, have a look at the email I've just sent them, copied below. Individual names, addresses and most of the email signature block have all been removed.


1 June 2006

Dear British Gas,

You may recall that I wrote to you in August last year, expressing my deep unhappiness at having your agents knock on my door. To refresh your memory, I have included below my email and your response at the time.

Until now, I have been impressed with the actions taken by British Gas and its representatives, which is to say that in the past 6 months I have received no visits from any such salesmen.

Regrettably however, that came to an end after a mere 6 months of undisturbed bliss, when this evening, someone from BG knocked on my door.

As I pointed out in my previous correspondence, a series of blunders by your company a few years ago mean that I am extremely unlikely to ever to grant you my custom again. Visits from any salesmen representing yourself will only increase this negative attitude.

I quote from your reply and remind you that "[my details]..are in the process of being removed from the [BG] marketing database", a process which can take "up to 6 weeks". Nowhere in your reply does it state that after only 6 months, my details will be added back into your database so that you can continue to hound me.

Please note the following:

1. I do not wish to be contacted by BG, or its representatives for any marketing or sales purposes again. Ever.
2. I wish my name and address to be removed from any sales and marketing databases that you may have. Permanently. I do not want to have to write to you again in another 6 months or year.
3. Other than for the purposes of replying to this correspondence and making a note of my requests above, I do not want my personal details to be stored by British Gas.

Please also note that as far as I am concerned, this is your last chance. Should any representative of British Gas contact me again, I will forward copies of all correspondence to the Information Commissioner, who I hope will be able to encourage you to take a closer look at your procedures.

Yours faithfully,

Damian.

house.co.uk wrote:
Dear Mr
I write further to my email from 1 September 2005 regarding the visits you
have had from British Gas Fieldsales Agents.
I confirm a customer can request their details to be removed from our
marketing database which will ensure they do not receive any marketing
information which will include visits by Fieldsales Agents. Unfortunately, 4
years ago your details were not successfully removed from our marketing
database. Please accept my sincere apologies for this error.
When a Fieldsales Agent visits an area, they are provided with a list of
customers within a certain postcode and then the data is destroyed after 4
weeks.
I have requested your details be removed from our Fieldsales database and
any other database used for marketing purposes. Unfortunately, this can take
up to 6 weeks to be updated and it is therefore possible you may receive a
further visit from a Fieldsales Agent. Whilst this is highly unlikely, I
wanted you to be aware of this possibility and to be assured your details
are in the process of being removed from our databases.
Once again, please accept my sincere apologies for the distress and
inconvenience that this has caused.
Kind regards



house.co.uk - the online home of British Gas

We are open 24 hours a day, every day of the year





30 August 2005


Dear British Gas,

Approximately 4 years ago, I ceased to be a British Gas customer. I don't wish to go into detail at this point in time as my reasons were well explained to your customer services at the time (several times in fact, in writing and by telephone) and I have no intention of becoming a British Gas customer ever again. I have patiently explained this and many of the reasons behind my original transfer to the legion of salesmen who have knocked on my door, disturbing my private life and these have obvioulsy been ignored. (Incidentally, these salesmen have included one who attempted to get me to sign a transfer agreement in favour of British Gas, claiming that my signature was required just "some information brochures could be sent to me")

Until this evening, I hadn't heard from you for about a year. Then, this evening, my peace and privacy were rudely interrupted by a knock on the door. The British Gas sales army was back. Since he asked for me by name, and knew that I used to be a British Gas customer, I can only assume that you, as a company still hold records on me. (The alternative, that my name was found on a register or list somewhere is implausible for the reasons outlined below and the fact that he knew that I was an ex-customer.)

This is unacceptable for several reasons, chief amongst them being the following:

1. I have never, in the past several years signed anything which would allow a company to make marketing visits or even to send me junk mail. Whereever possible, I have opted out of this. (Since the option was available, I have also removed my name from the version of the electoral register sold to companies such as British Gas to be used for marketing purposes). This would almost certainly apply to the agreement I made when I became a British Gas customer at my present address, before opting for an alternate supplier. Your own Privavy Policy, found on your website states that information provided by me or held by yourselves can be used to:

"- contact you in any way (including mail, e-mail, phone, visit, text or multimedia messages) about products and services offered by us and selected partners. We will only contact you in this way if you have previously shown your consent."

I repeat above, that I am sure that I have never given my consent to this. In the unlikely event that I have, I hereby rescind and revoke any such authorisation. From this moment onwards, British Gas lack any such permission to contact me.


2. As stated in my first paragraph above, it is now approaching 4 years since I was last a British Gas customer. While I am not fully aware of the Data Protection legislation, I am aware that data can only be held on identifiable individuals for "a reasonanble length of time" once the relationship between the individual and the company has terminated. In simple terms in this specific case, once I chose to get my gas elsewhere, you had a reasonable amount of time to retain my records and then you should have destroyed them. There may be some flexibility in the word "reasonable" and I know that it can mean different things in different fields, however, for example, the company for whom I previously worked had a well defined and easily accessible policy which stated that all information on former employees would be destroyed one year after they finished working for the companyy. One year is reasonable. Two years, at a pinch could be considered reasonable. Four years is not. Therefore, I am asking you to remove any information that you may have about me as a past customer from your records. You may keep my name and address on file for two purposes and two purposes only. These are:
(i) for the purpose of replying to this email and any subsequent correspondence related to this email. This is NOT to include any form of marketing communication and is only permitted if it is strictly necessary. Copies of any correspondence held should be subject to your data retention policy (i.e. destroyed after a reasonable period of time)..
(ii) for the purpose of recording that with the exception of (i) I do not wish to be contacted or disturbed by anybody acting for, or on behalf of British Gas, it parent group, or any of its subsidiaries or agents for any reason whatsoever, unless some form of emergency or legal obligation on your part requires it. Specifically, I do not wish any form of marketing contact from British Gas. Again, this is only permitted if it is strictly necessary. I specifically wish to be removed from any mailing lists used by British Gas, its parent company, and any of its subsidiaries or agents.

I am only too well aware that in writing to you in this manner, I am forced into giving you my personal details so that my complaint can be verified, and responded to. Please note that any personal details gleaned from this email are subject to the restrictions stated above. I would like a reply to my email, detailing any responses you feel appropiate. As a minimum, I would like your agreement to never contact me again for marketing purposes. I would also suggest that you publicise your data retention policy (if it exists - if not, I suggest you create one). If such a policy exists, I would also appreciate a copy of it.

I look forward to your response.

Yours faithfully,


Damian



posted by Damian at 7:17 PM
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Saturday, May 20, 2006

Bad Spirits

To the Customer Services Team, Spirit Group

re: Old Orleans Restaurant, Printworks, Manchester

Dear Customer Services,

Last night I, and 10 of my friends made the catastrophic decision to attempt to dine at the above mentioned restaurant.

The problems started with the table booking over the telephone, where we were surprised to find that the person taking our reservation was only authorised to do this for up to four people, leading to a delay on the phone while someone more senior was found.

On arrival, half an hour early, with the intention of having a drink in the bar section first, we were pleasantly surprised to be seated in the restaurant almost immediately. Its also fair to say that the starters arrived in good time.

However, these good efforts were sadly let down by the length of the wait for the main courses and by the state of them when they arrived. For example, a large piece of "medium rare" steak was left by a committed carnivore because it was cooked to the point that it appeared to be a lump of charcoal. It was perhaps unfortunate that the same individual had suffered something similar with some of the nachos ordered as a starter.

As a group though, we were prepared to overlook all these problems. What really infuriated us was that on examination of the bill, the printed total had been manually crossed out and a handwritten line had been added "Service Charge of 10% for groups of more than ten people" with an appropriate amount added, and a new total written at the bottom.

There are a few reasons why this was so annoying. Firstly, no warning was given about this when the table was booked. Secondly, the surcharge is not mentioned anywhere in the small print on the menu as is common practice in other establishments where this sort of surcharge is applied. Thirdly, while all members of the group are happy to provide gratuities for good service, this is somewhat reliant on our opinion of the service. Merely taking our orders and delivering our poor quality food after an interminable wait does not automatically qualify for this.

Finally, when this charge was queried, it was pointed out that it "was entirely discretionary" and that we didn't have to pay it. This was not specified anywhere on the handwritten line anywhere.

Given the lack of warning on the menu, the fact that this surcharge was handwritten and therefore was clearly not a printable option on the till, we can only assume that it is NOT your company policy and the member of staff in question was attempting to defraud us, probably on the grounds that we would be too drunk to notice.

If it is policy, I strongly recommend that warnings are added to your printed literature, with a reminder that the charge is discretionary.

As it is, it is unlikely that any of us will be inclined to visit your chain of restaurants again.

posted by Damian at 1:27 PM
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Sunday, April 23, 2006

Plastered

Just before Christmas, I registered this domain. Yesterday, I finally got the blog up and running, something which was this long delayed, in part because of problems with the original hosting company, but largely because of my natural apathy and tendency for procrastination. Possibly, I'm the worst person to try and start a website dedicated to exposing incompetence.

Today was supposed to be a day for getting the rest of the site together, including the forums, however, this hasn't happened because I've spent most of the day with a hangover, following a top night out in South where Clint Boon of Inspiral Carpets fame is the resident Saturday night DJ.

On the one hand, the website has been delayed, probably for at least another week, given that work is likely to get in the way. On the plus side though, Clint signed my plaster cast. Pictures of his artwork will follow, if I can persuade my camera to work (the problem here is the camera's age rather than my incompetence).

posted by Damian at 8:46 PM
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Saturday, April 22, 2006

Welcome

Hello and welcome to my blog at incompetencewatch.com. Currently, there isn't a lot here - the plan is to have news and other stuff on the front page, then probably a series of forums, plus the blog itself where you will be subjected to my personal musings and rantings. I've also asked Ian of Spinneyhead fame to share a guest spot on the blog, so you should be hearing from him here too.

The theory is that the website will become a place where people can let off steam when they feel that a company or its representatives have treated them badly. Through the forums, I hope that others will be able to offer advice if further action is needed.

While the founders of IncompetenceWatch.com are based in the UK, please feel free to join in wherever you come from.

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